[Jay knew this Norma; knew of her, certainly, but he's calling her an idiot without citing any actual idiotic things she did, so Geir decides "knew her" is the better bet. his mind feels like it's working a little less sluggishly with that nuance to ponder on.]

Norma was a good apprentice too. Did you know who she was when she showed up in your war?

[because of course, Jay would have been keeping track of arrivals, especially ones with valuable, ancient knowledge from the third side in that conflict...]